would never complain about being cast in Ty Segall‘s shadow. A musical partnership that stretches back to their days at Laguna Beach High, Mikal and Ty are living out the ambitions of every shred dog who has dreamt of touring with his best friends from SoCal to NYC and in between. All the while cuts of Mikal’s self-titled debut record, a “cleaned up” pop garage ballad, surge across the web as label prepares its release on September 20th. We talked with Mikal about adjusting to life in one’s mid-20s and the perfect pop song.
Saw the Black Lodge show at Hemlock a few weeks ago. Do you guys play house parties?
MC: I joined that band the day of that show. And they had only practiced a few times before I guess. Same with TOAD, who played after Black Lodge. We had just gotten back from tour the night before and that show was ridiculous and so fun. Black Lodge will play your house party.
Who are you taking on tour with you? How did you guys get together?
MC: I was living north of LA (in Val Verde, by that Magic Mountain theme park) for school, so it’s friends from down there. I borrowed two members from the awesome band Pangea (Danny on guitar and Eric on drums), then my former roommate Cory plays another guitar (who plays as the band WHITE, also awesome) and my buddy Chad plays bass, who plays in a lot of great bands too. They’re awesome and I’m really happy to play with them! The lineup might change since I moved to San Francisco but I don’t have anyone yet. We’ll see!
What are the major differences between the self-titled debut and your earlier work in Moonhearts/Reverse Shark Attack?
MC: I think it’s a lot poppier… and much cleaner. The songs are very different, not as “weird” as or “punk” as . The subject matter is also a lot more personal on this record. A lot more acoustic guitar too, haha, and a lot more vocal harmonies. This stuff is what I hear in my head all the time but wouldn’t really fit stylistically with other bands I play in. But like both those other bands I tried to keep the songs simple and distill them down to the necessary elements as much as possible.
Your label has described the new record as “conceived and recorded as a sort of therapy to help cope with adjusting to life post-college.” What has been your hardest change?
MC: The time writing that record was really hard and strange. I had been in and out of schools at that point for about 7 years, and I didn’t know what was going to happen after that. It was not specifically “post-college” I’m adjusting to but that crazy time in your mid 20′s where nothing is stable. At that time the combination of frantically trying to fulfill graduation requirements, having a bad breakup with a girlfriend and the uncertainty of the near future was really insane. I drove up to San Francisco and recorded the record during my school’s spring break, getting back on Monday 2 hours before my first morning class. I felt like i was losing my mind, but at the same time really excited for the few plans I had. I went on a few back-to-back tours right after I graduated and haven’t been home since… I kind of accidentally wound up in San Francisco with a duffle bag and my bass, realizing mid-tour that I didn’t have time to go back home and get my stuff because of various August shows. I haven’t “adjusted”, but the past few months has completely changed my mindset and it’s all amazing. I’m extremely happy and I’m doing what I want to be doing (playing music) every day. Tired but happy.
Is it hard to stay creative when you’re grouped with hundreds of other “garage” acts (just in California) or is that more of a challenge to differentiate? Are genres more helpful or harmful to artists?
MC: It’s strange, our group of friends has been playing “surfy garage” music for a long time, way before this recent interest in it. So when it all the sudden got popular we were kind of confused but happy that people wanted to hear what we were doing. But honestly everything I do, and what my friends do, makes a conscious effort to not be pinned down by one genre. I never want to be “schtick-y” or whatever. We have the same influences as a lot of people but try to spin it in a different direction. Not sure if we’re successful in that but that’s the plan. I’m just really passionate about that era of music (60′s garage and pop bands) and want to use some of that voice to express my own ideas. I don’t know. In the end, genres only exist so people have a frame of reference to talk about music.
You’re leaving on tour soon and the new record drops September 20th. What are your goals next year?
MC: Oh man. Kind of an impossible question, but I will say that I woke up this morning with by stuck in my head. I dreamt about it, I saw him play it in a little venue to like 15 people and I was the only one singing along. That’s a pretty fucking perfect pop song.
09.16.11 Fri Lubbock, Texas Bash Riprocks
09.17.11 Sat Austin, Texas Mohawk (Outside Stage)
09.18.11 Sun Denton, Texas Rubbergloves
09.19.11 Mon New Orleans, Louisiana One Eyed Jack’s
09.20.11 Tue Birmingham, Alabama Bottletree
09.21.11 Wed Nashville, Tennessee Exit/In
09.22.11 Thu Memphis, Gonerfest
09.23.11 Fri Atlanta, Georgia Earl
09.24.11 Sat Durham, North Carolina Duke Coffeehouse
09.25.11 Sun Harrisonburg, Virginia Festival Ballroom A at JMU
09.26.11 Mon Washington, DC Comet Pizza
09.27.11 Tue Baltimore, Maryland Golden West Cafe
09.29.11 Thu New York City, New York Bowery Ballroom
09.30.11 Fri Cleveland, Ohio Beachland Tavern
10.01.11 Sat Chicago, Illinois Empty Bottle
10.03.11 Mon Northfield, Minnesota The Cave (Carleton College)
10.04.11 Tue Iowa City, Iowa Blue Moose
10.05.11 Wed Omaha, Nebraska Slowdown
10.06.11 Thu Denver, Colorado Hi-Dive